A rolled roast is made of what gets cut off the ribs, basically brisket etc. So yes it would have a good amount of gristle and fat. Mine is home kill and it is cooked in the crock pot nowadays. Always a winner.
samanya,
Jul 26, 8:36am
I couldn't agree more. I buy schnitzel & they seem to cut it 'with' the grain, not across it & have to hunt to get a piece of cut as it should be . across the grain.
Hi does anyone have any suggestions for roasting beef, every time I have tried to roast it and even in a low oven it turns out tough and chewy. can anyone advise thanks much appreciated
uli,
Jul 26, 9:16pm
550°F degrees - that is 290 degrees C - most household ovens wouldn't go there I guess. How high do you get your oven to heat up pinballwizard?
lilyfield,
Jul 26, 10:27pm
Depends on what cut you use, if it is a rolled piece you are better off doing it as pot roast, always nice and juicy with gravy to boost.
Most likely you have overdone the timing. 20 min per pound, plus standing time, also frequent basting while roasting, or use a roasting bag.
beaker59,
Jul 27, 1:34am
Beef seems to be quite an easy meat to roast. But something I have found with any roast is the bigger the better so if you are a small family or a couple buy a roast that will do for 2 or even 3 meals and make plenty of gravy. Also another tip is rest well (cover with tinfoil if necessary for the resting time) then slice thinly across the grain if your carving knife isn't up to the job then get another or have it properly sharpened.
macandrosie,
Jul 27, 1:38am
Do you have a slow cooker? I coat mine with salt & cracked pepper, don't need to add any water & allow to cook on slow for most of the day. I find it is lovely & moist.
jill117,
Jul 27, 1:47am
Have you tried oven bags? I like them because they keep the oven clean, but of course they also keep the meat moist etc. For meat that I expect to be quite tough (eg older beast, or been in the freezer a while), I soak in a little bit of red wine overnight, this can be done in a plastic bag, turned over occasionally.
pinballwizard,
Jul 27, 2:26am
Good question Uli. I have a Westinghouse Saturn freestanding oven and the max. temperature reads 250 degrees but I'm thinking it must be a bit hotter than 250 once the oven says it has reached that temperature. Even allowing for this I've found the roasting method I posted earlier still works.
uli,
Jul 27, 4:55am
I have a separate (actually 2 sepaerate) oven thermometers, so I will see how high mine gets. I do pizzas in mine (not as fast as in my outdoor oven which I can easily up to 400 degrees C when they take less than 5 minutes, turned twice) but still fairly good pizzas in about 15 minutes.
It seemed a very short time (what was it 5 minutes per pound?) but then if the oven is that hot and you do leave it to "stew" in there it must be doing something.
Will see when I do my next home kill how it works - so watch this space (maybe for another year depending on how fast the steer grows) .
punkinthefirst,
Jul 27, 9:37am
What cut are you using? Only top quality cuts with good marbelling should be roasted, really. and rare. These days, the butchers remove the best part of the rib roast and sell it as scotch fillet steak, but what's left can be tender and tasty if braised or pot-roasted - as can a well-trimmed piece of brisket. Check out NZ Beef and Lamb's website for a list of cuts and how to cook them.
sarahb5,
Jul 27, 10:03pm
Yes the cut is definitely what makes the difference and don't over complicate things either - I roast bolar and it is always tasty - 20 minutes per 450g plus an extra 20 mins @ 220. Rub oil into the fat side, put it in the tin and grind some pepper over the top - do not salt your meat because it draws out the moisture.
I made a tough chewy one tonight. Was underdone after 1 3/4 hours and I got told off for not cutting it to test it. I let it stand avoiding any cuts which might let out the juices. I thought it would cook longer while resting. Anyhow the quality must not be good and yes I would try a pot roast for longer next time.
sarahb5,
Jul 28, 10:15am
Must've been a big piece or too low a heat to not be cooked after that length of time - what cut was it? How you carve it also makes a difference - need to cut across the grain so only chewing on short fibres if you get my meaning
rainrain1,
Jul 28, 8:43pm
I think people try too hard when it comes to a roast, it sounds like it needs to be cooked for longer, forget about the blood bit, cook it properly and enjoy it with horseradish cream, gravy and your favourite veg
sarahb5,
Jul 29, 1:09am
It really depends how you like your meat cooked - I like my roast beef still pink in the middle served with mustard, and the hot oven is needed to make the Yorkshires rise properly as well. With lamb I like it cooked long and slow so that it falls apart.
rainrain1,
Jul 29, 2:03am
I prefer my visual blood on a good piece of fillet steak, cuts like butter and melts in the mouth
sarahb5,
Jul 29, 2:15am
And that's how my roast beef is too
rainrain1,
Jul 29, 2:31am
Jolly good show
sarahb5,
Jul 29, 3:18am
Not really - just years of practice - maybe it's in the English genes though I had trouble when I first got here as meat cuts are different in NZ
rainrain1,
Jul 29, 3:30am
The cuts are very different now from what they used to be, even to us kiwis. We are growers, and I still have to google to find out if e.g., a bolar roast is the same as a piece of pocket steak as we always used to call it. I never seem to get a bolar roast now, I don't know what my butchers do with that cut these days, they probably murder a good piece of meat before it gets to my freezer
xtownie,
Jul 29, 3:36am
I have a rolled beef in the oven now, its in an oven bag with about a cup of red wine, few cloves of garlic and some cracked pepper. I will be roasting it very slowly on 150d for about 4 - 5 hours. never fails when slow cooked and oven bag keeps the moisture in it.
rainrain1,
Jul 29, 3:42am
Rolled beef is delicious and preferable to us than bolar. I always think it is such a stupid name for a piece of meat
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