Meat-eaters: have no skin pores and perspire through the tongue
Herbivores: perspire through skin pores
Humans: perspire through skin pores
Meat-eaters: have sharp front teeth for tearing, with no flat molar teeth for grinding
Herbivores: no sharp front teeth, but flat rear molars for grinding
Humans: no sharp front teeth, but flat rear molars for grinding
Meat-eaters: have intestinal tract that is only 3 times their body length so that rapidly decaying meat can pass through quickly
Herbivores: have intestinal tract 10-12 times their body length.
Humans: have intestinal tract 10-12 times their body length.
Meat-eaters: have strong hydrochloric acid in stomach to digest meat
Herbivores: have stomach acid that is 20 times weaker than that of a meat-eater
Humans: have stomach acid that is 20 times weaker than that of a meat-eater
Meat-eaters: salivary glands in mouth not needed to pre-digest grains and fruits.
Herbivores: well-developed salivary glands which are necessary to pre-digest grains and fruits
Humans: well-developed salivary glands, which are necessary to pre-digest, grains and fruits
Meat-eaters: have acid saliva with no enzyme ptyalin to pre-digest grains
Herbivores: have alkaline saliva with ptyalin to pre-digest grains
Humans: have alkaline saliva with ptyalin to pre-digest grains
buzzy110,
Jul 15, 1:09am
And that would be all excellent research ferita excepting you seem to forget that we are omnivorous as opposed to carnivore or vegetarian alone. That means we are specialised for neither.
But don't you worry about it ferita. You are permitted to eat or not eat, whatever you want. No one is stopping you and some even have the greatest respect for your ideals.
Luckily pre-historic man didn't stop to debate the issue. They just ate whatever food offered itself and in the way they like it best and thus they thrived. Because of their lack of 'enlightenment' on the differences between carnivore and vegetarian, we survived and thrived to a point where 2 million years later we can now have pointless debates about whether our ancestors should have known whether or not they could eat meat and if it should be cooked or not.
feris04,
Jul 15, 1:23am
Meat-eaters: have claws
Herbivores: no claws
Humans: no claws, what do you call fingernails? they can be bloody sharp, it's more of a case that they are capable of grasping the prey and stoping it escaping.
Meat-eaters: have no skin pores and perspire through the tongue, so meat eaters have no pores? tell that to dogs and cats which have pores in skin to secrete oils, What about pigs they aren't meat eater but have no sweat glands in skin.
Herbivores: perspire through skin pores
Humans: perspire through skin pores also lose heat through the face, like most carnivores.
Meat-eaters: have sharp front teeth for tearing, with no flat molar teeth for grinding
Herbivores: no sharp front teeth, but flat rear molars for grinding
Humans: Have rather sharp front teeth incisors, canines, permolars, but flat rear molars for grinding
Meat-eaters: have intestinal tract that is only 3 times their body length so that rapidly decaying meat can pass through quickly. Meat does not decay in the intestine, it is broken down by enzymes and acids.
Herbivores: have intestinal tract 10-12 times their body length.
Humans: have intestinal tract 10-12 times their body length. only if your three feet tall, its around 30 feet long and we also have no functioning caecum. we cannot digest cellulose the major plant carbohydrate.
Meat-eaters: have strong hydrochloric acid in stomach to digest meat
Herbivores: have stomach acid that is 20 times weaker than that of a meat-eater, rely on bacteria and protozoa to digest cellulose
Humans: Human stomach have hydrochloric acid secretion into the stomach like carnivore.
Meat-eaters: salivary glands in mouth not needed to pre-digest grains and fruits.
Herbivores: well-developed salivary glands which are necessary to pre-digest grains and fruits
Humans: well-developed salivary glands, which are necessary to pre-digest, grains and fruits, due to a retrovirus which is inserted in the pancreatic amalyase causing gene to function in the salivartory cells.
Meat-eaters: have acid saliva with no enzyme ptyalin to pre-digest grains
Herbivores: have alkaline saliva with ptyalin to pre-digest grains
Humans: have alkaline saliva with ptyalin to pre-digest grains
feris04,
Jul 15, 1:27am
Meat-eaters: have eyes pointing forward and eyes are close to center of face.
Herbivores: have eyes towards side of head, giving 280+ degree vision.
Humans: have eyes pointing forward and eyes are close to center of face.
beaker59,
Jul 15, 1:46am
If god didn't intend us to eat meat why did he make animals so delicious, afterall what earthly use does a crayfish have that doesn't include garlic butter.
feris04,
Jul 15, 1:51am
Vegetarian, old Indian word for bad hunter. Vegan, Old Indian word for not even good at catching eggs
rua69,
Jul 15, 1:52am
I consider myself an omnivore, much like a - pig (hooved) - baboon (forward pointing eyes; has nails) - rat (eyes towards side of head, has claws) - kea (as per rat; has feathers and no teeth) - seagull (as per kea; has webbed feet instead of claws) - chicken (as per kea; rarely has teeth)
feris04,
Jul 15, 1:55am
And you would be correct. Don't forget bears, largest land predator, they’re omnivorous
ferita,
Jul 15, 2:02am
Oh look the pro meat agenda is out in force. I dont really care if you eat meat. I am a qualified chef and have worked in a meat factory yet been a vegetarian all my life.
Its the insecure meat eaters who think it is their place to tell the vegetarians what they should be eating. You never see the vegetarians telling the meat eaters to stop eating meat.
Your arguements for meat are inane anyway. Some of you are talking evolution and some of you meat eaters are talking design LOL which is it? ? You cant even agree on that.
rua69,
Jul 15, 2:06am
And the chimpanzee, and a few others that we'll think of later. Opportunistic scavengers, the lot; a few hunt as required.
Edit: for #163
feris04,
Jul 15, 3:12am
I’m talking evolution. You were talking about design.
As for not pushing vegetarianism, what about the long list of incorrect information you posted trying to classify humans as herbivores, also saying we weren’t meant to eat meat. Sounds a bit pushy. I just corrected your information, if that threatened your ideals i apologise for the truth.
Feel free to eat veggies, it leaves more meat for me :). I’m a qualified geneticist but you don't see harping on about how people should be breeding.
feris04,
Jul 15, 3:15am
They are very fascinating, especially when you watch footage of the hunting parties, very systematic hunting.
Chickens are omnivores and cannibalistic awesome combination.
stormbaby,
Jul 15, 3:16am
What a hoot. I have never considered myself "an insecure meat eater", in fact have never even heard of the expression! I think the boot is definately on the other foot. Time and time again I see the same lot on the Message boards, spouting their opinions, calling themselve "informed" and everyone else is "insecure". If it makes you feel better dear...
jaybee2003,
Jul 15, 3:54am
Pigs do eat meat. Wild pigs on the farm here will find a dead or dying sheep, and devour it, shaking it to pieces, stripping every shred of meat off the carcase. Wild pigs have been known to kill young lambs.
I rescued a young piglet from certain death one day. It was deemed if I wanted to keep it, it had to be castrated, so one of the young staff here was assigned to do the deed, but he insisted he needed me to hold the piglet still while he did the necessary. Which I did, not knowing what to expect. Typical young lad, wanting to shock the Bosses wife, said "watch this... " as he cut out a testicle... and flung it on the ground in front of the piglet... and the piglet promply ate his own testicle! Pigs do eat meat.
Which will probably be way too much info for some and turn many meat lovers into vegetarians, or non pork eaters!
feris04,
Jul 15, 4:33am
Pigs are omnivores, not obligative meat eaters. I know about pigs, having been around them and breed them for the last 14 years.
Im surprised you had the pig castrated without anaesthesia which is a bit disgusting in itself. it isn't even common practise anymore to castrate male piglets.
elliehen,
Jul 15, 7:13am
Time for a non-sequitur:
'It isn't the cough That carries you off. It's the coffin They carry you off in. ' ~ Ogden Nash
Whatever we eat, meat & two veg or wheat & two veg, none of us will get out of life alive.
marielize1,
Jul 15, 3:48pm
Too true Elliehen, but what will we debate then? The threads would be so boring we'll never come back! Or we'll have to join the "Is global warming real" debate on the environmental thread.
buzzy110,
Jul 15, 4:40pm
Global warming is the fault of those awful vegetarians. I'm sure if I cast around a bit I can make up a list of fallacies (like ferita's herbivore vs carnivore list) to back up that claim. That is all I'm going to say on the subject because I will not change my mind no matter how logical, erudite, sane or practical any argument to the contrary is presented.
So there.
visionspring,
Jul 15, 5:43pm
I just have to say that yes, while we will all die in the end, what's wrong with living life to the fullest? IE eating in a way that optimises your body, because without a healthy body we can't enjoy life!
I firmly believe that the food you eat is responsible for your mood, energy levels, immunity, disease prevention... . . EVERYTHING... . s- o its good to be conscious of what goes in your pie hole, hehe
And the bottom line is that more research shows that eating a certain way IS better than other ways. I don't want to get into it too much because I don't want to be part of the flame wars here.
I think that vegetarians and carnivores will at least agree for a start that we should ditch the processed food/chemicals and go back to whole, home cooked ingredients :)
ferita,
Jul 15, 7:38pm
You got trolled
buzzy110,
Jul 15, 9:04pm
I really like your philosophy vision. It matches mine perfectly.
andrea1978,
Jul 15, 11:05pm
oh dear ... you cannot be serious ...
uli,
Jul 15, 11:43pm
As i said earlier I have had one example in my neighbourhood - and so I investigated as it sounded far fetched. If you are interested and you can read - then you can read some of the stuff I found yourself and then decide what you take or leave from it.
http://www.dcnutrition.com/news/Detail. CFM? RecordNumber=546 (above: Researchers Daniel Doerge and Daniel Sheehan, two of the Food and Drug Administration's experts on soy, signed a letter of protest, which points to studies that show a link between soy and health problems in certain animals. The two say they tried in vain to stop the FDA approval of soy because it could be misinterpreted as a broader general endorsement beyond benefits for the heart. )
elliehen,
Jul 16, 3:34am
I think more people need to divert from the 'lies' in scientific research on all sides and read fiction - read a great novel.
Paradoxically, all the truths are in fiction. Very little non-fiction survives beyond a generation or two before its content is overturned by the next turn of the wheel. Yet the very best fiction, because it contains universal truths about the human condition, lasts for centuries.
Read a good novel this weekend, or even a short story - nourishing food for the soul :)
fluffyminx,
Jul 16, 3:45am
actually same for us my son had soy milk as a baby and is now diabetic for 2 years he is nearly 20.
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