Dairy free cheese sauce

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livys_mum, Mar 17, 10:05pm
Hi - I have a dairy free child and make a white sauce for her with soy milk when we have lasagne so that she feels like she is having 'cheese' in hers too.It's pretty bland in flavour and I was just wondering if any of you have any tips on how to make it tastier (I just use flour, butter, soy milk, salt, pepper and a little powdered chicken stock...sometimes a little mustard powder too).

uli, Mar 17, 10:20pm
It will be difficult to make a "cheese sauce" without cheese :) - so just add some other flavours to it - herbs, spices etc.

As the "child" matures - let her know how to make satisfying foods without cheese if she really cannot have it. Much better than to try and "make-believe" ....

mucky333, Mar 17, 10:51pm
a bit of mustard, and chicken stock tastes real here.
im diary free and my DP and flatmate eat it happy enought not knowing it has not one single piece of cheese in it

frances1266, Mar 17, 11:03pm
you can add nutritional yeast flakes to give a cheesey flavour, about 2T,
white miso, mustard etc.Google dairy free cheese sauces and you will find hundreds of recipes.

uli, Mar 17, 11:14pm
Not sure how "far" or "how long" you have been "out of" the real thing - but chicken stock (all artificial of course) and mustard - are not at all what cheese tastes like.

Which is why if this a small child - then why not re-adjust her/his tastes NOW - so he/she doesn't feel like missing out on something later in life. So do not even try to "make up" for cheese - just omit it - and use herbs and spices to suit.

mucky333, Mar 17, 11:32pm
I have had the real stuff lately, and when made with soy milk (so good brand) what i make tastes like real cheese sauce, my partner and flatmate cant tell it has no cheese in it. (and they can eat cheese and diary and do know what the real cheese sauce tastes like)
and our chicken stock is boiled up chicken carcasses, so i dunno how thats artificial. we buy the chickens, eat them, make stock from the bones and freeze it in 1cup amounts...very rarely do we buy stock from the supermarket. last time i brought some was when I was trialling being Gluten free on advice from the specialist.

omokoroa1, Mar 18, 12:26am
livy can she eat cheezels or twisties?those chppie things?

lythande1, Mar 18, 1:06am
How terrible for your child to be cheese-less.
Have a read here for some non-cheese cheese.
http://dairyfreecooking.about.com/od/basiccheeserecipes/tp/Cheese-Substitutions.htm

lx4000, Mar 18, 1:26am
what about goats cheese, Buffalo cheeses??

livys_mum, Mar 18, 3:21am
She can't have any milk (not from goats or buffalos or sheep either).She doesn't eat cheezles or twisties.nothing with any derivitives from milk (casein, sodium casinate etc).

She is the second child of five, and we often don't have things with cheese.But every now and then when it's pizza, or lasagne, it's nice for her to feel like she's eating the same thing as the rest of us.So thanks for all of your tips, I'll give the yeast flakes and miso a try for sure.

buzzy110, Mar 18, 3:35am
Oh mucky that is fantastic. I'm afraid that some of us are used to seeing people post recipes and ideas that are made using ingredients that come straight from a packet. This is why uli 'assumed' you were talking about something like Maggi powdered stock. I too, made the same assumption when I read your post. It is refreshing to meet a fellow cook who appreciates the good things in life.

buzzy110, Mar 18, 3:38am
Isn't there a soy cheese on the market. I'm sure I've seen something like that in our supermarket.

Can I also take it from your original post that even though you say dairy free, you really only mean milk products with lactose, not butter or cream? I'm just thinking here that if that is the case, maybe someone could point you in the direction of a lactose free cheese. I think they are available, or even a goats cheese.

livys_mum, Mar 18, 4:05am
Thanks buzzy, it's not the lactose, its the casein in milk that she can't have, so she is totally milk free.I've tried one soy cheese - it tastes like vomit lol!She likes the soy yogurt from the same brand, but the cheese is blerk!

nzl99, Mar 18, 4:10am
Gosh that must be hard.

I would suggest similar things... make it savoury, rather than cheesy...use chicken stock, mustard, add plenty of fresh herbs, maybe a little cayenne if she likes spicy... how about making a pesto type 'sauce' so there is plenty of flavour...

nzl99, Mar 18, 4:22am
I love cheese and just as silly as it sounds, I really feel for your daughter.

Would this alternative be suitable for her?
http://www.veganperfection.com.au/productpage.php?id=49

livys_mum, Mar 18, 6:32am
yes, that would be ok, thanks for the link :o)

She's never had cheese, so she doesn't know what she's missing.And there is dairy free chocolate and ice cream, so her childhood isn't 'too' deprived lol.

nauru, Mar 18, 7:21am
Hi Mucky333.........Would you like to share your recipe with the rest of us. My daughter would be very interested as she has 2 DF children. Thanks?

livys_mum, Mar 18, 10:05pm
Hi - I have a dairy free child and make a white sauce for her with soy milk when we have lasagne so that she feels like she is having 'cheese' in hers too.It's pretty bland in flavour and I was just wondering if any of you have any tips on how to make it tastier (I just use flour, butter, soy milk, salt, pepper and a little powdered chicken stock.sometimes a little mustard powder too).

uli, Mar 18, 10:20pm
It will be difficult to make a "cheese sauce" without cheese :) - so just add some other flavours to it - herbs, spices etc.

As the "child" matures - let her know how to make satisfying foods without cheese if she really cannot have it. Much better than to try and "make-believe" .

popit_nz, Mar 18, 11:07pm
doesnt it drive you nuts when you say you have a dairy free child people then say 'oh so she is lactose intolerant'.....2 very different things or 'but a little bit wont hurt'

dairy allergic means that they cant have ANYTHING at all derived from dairy because they are allergic to the protein in the dairy but lactose intolerant means that they dont process the sugar in the dairy product that is why people are able to have lactose free dairy products because the sugar part is removed but dairy allergic people cant have lactose free because it still contains the dairy protein in the product.

I have been in exactly the same boat as you.

uli, Mar 18, 11:14pm
Not sure how "far" or "how long" you have been "out of" the real thing - but chicken stock (all artificial of course) and mustard - are not at all what cheese tastes like.

Which is why if this a small child - then why not re-adjust her/his tastes NOW - so he/she doesn't feel like missing out on something later in life. So do not even try to "make up" for cheese - just omit it - and use herbs and spices to suit.

mucky333, Mar 18, 11:32pm
I have had the real stuff lately, and when made with soy milk (so good brand) what i make tastes like real cheese sauce, my partner and flatmate cant tell it has no cheese in it. (and they can eat cheese and diary and do know what the real cheese sauce tastes like)
and our chicken stock is boiled up chicken carcasses, so i dunno how thats artificial. we buy the chickens, eat them, make stock from the bones and freeze it in 1cup amounts.very rarely do we buy stock from the supermarket. last time i brought some was when I was trialling being Gluten free on advice from the specialist.

omokoroa1, Mar 19, 12:26am
livy can she eat cheezels or twisties!those chppie things!

lx4000, Mar 19, 1:26am
what about goats cheese, Buffalo cheeses!

livys_mum, Mar 19, 3:21am
She can't have any milk (not from goats or buffalos or sheep either).She doesn't eat cheezles or twisties.nothing with any derivitives from milk (casein, sodium casinate etc).

She is the second child of five, and we often don't have things with cheese.But every now and then when it's pizza, or lasagne, it's nice for her to feel like she's eating the same thing as the rest of us.So thanks for all of your tips, I'll give the yeast flakes and miso a try for sure.