Thought there would be a few interested in that. I dont think it was a particularly nice thing to say over there.
cookessentials,
Jun 20, 8:44pm
it is nothing surprising... just LOVED beakers post LOL, like I dont know who THAT was aimed at LOL. Like you actually KNOW me beaker... such stirrers and frankly if people on recipes are such "old biddies" and "ungrateful" why on earth do any of you knockers still continue to come on here? ? ? ? ? so pathetic and as you can see by that link, that is what has ruined the recipe section.
beaker59,
Jun 20, 10:36pm
Cookie you are the pathetic one have you really actually made every recipe you have posted on here, I very much doubt it. I am sure you can and do cook but personally I never post anything I have never actually tried out unlike yourself who just posts recipes from anywhere. To me it comes across as a holier than thou self love fest whereas people like Buzzy and Uli actually live and practice what they preach even if I may not agree with it all at least they are real and genuine as opposed to you and your commercial interests.
cookessentials,
Jun 21, 7:45am
Good morning beaker. I guess you seem to think you know me well do you? Well, I think not. I am surprised you have the gall to come here if you think that people on the recipe section are "Old biddies" with nothing better to do with their time. Sadly for you, the only posts I ever seem to see from you are ones like you one above. I cook alot and bake too and have done so for some thirty years. If I put up a recipe that I have not tried, I will tell you. if it is a recipe that has come from someone else OR somewhere else, I will tell you. As for the "self love fest" -please, get over yourself... I come here to help and to share what knowledge I have and I am sure there are a number of people who appreciate that, just like I appreciate any help and advice that is useful to me from others. As for your sarcastic remark about an "essential commercial enterprise" LOL-how transparent can you get? I have been on the recipe boards since 2004 under my brianmac username and since now also running a business I come in under that username - is that SUCH a problem for you? it seems so to me. I have a love of food and a reasonable knowledge ( like a number of people here) I certainly do not profess to know everything and I love learning new recipes and techniques. I share what knowledge i have here and with my customers alike, probably why I own a cookware store- for the LOVE of cooking. Perhaps you should steer clear of all the old biddies that "talk rubbish" I also have had some catering experience with weddings and functions and the like through a wedding venue, so I THINK I do know a little LOL. Oh, and my cookbook library is pretty considerable too. The recipe section is somewhere where anyone can come to share and contribute as they see fit, not a place to come and constantly berate others. We had that a while back and thankfully, it seems to have abated somewhat. Hopefully we can keep it that way. Envy comes from people's ignorance of, or lack of belief in, their own gifts.
buzzy110,
Jun 21, 8:48am
Firstly, I'm not in Wellington,
Secondly, This is a messageboard "Topic" where we assist one another with recipes and various foods and opinions thereof, not opinions on designing dining websites - perhaps one should try General or computing if ... . . or am I'm missing something.
valentino (471 )2:48 pm, Thu 17 Jun #3
So cooks, you don't see anything slightly hypocritical in this post? If anyone has "ruined Recipes" as you so succintly put it, then perhaps we are not the only ones. I mean just how welcoming is that post?
I'll answer that. It isn't. It is telling the original poster to p off out of here and leave it for recipes.
buzzy110,
Jun 21, 8:52am
One more little point of hypocrisy that you and your band of Recipes police may not have noticed, but this thread definitely has absolutely nothing to do with a recipe of any description. Where is valentino to remind poster #1 of that?
Oh yes, I remember, only those who are in 'nice' crowd are allowed to post non-recipe related threads. The rest of us are just stirrers who have 'ruined Recipes'. Yeah, right!
You all need to take your share of the blame for ruining Recipes. However, I won't because I don't think Recipes is ruined at all - just evolving.
buzzy110,
Jun 21, 8:58am
When I first came into these threads I saw a lot of posts from you promoting products you sold. At no time did you tell the thread poster that queries about cooking implements, etc, did not belong in Recipes because this board should be purely about Recipes (as Valentino seems to want us to believe) and that they should jump over to General or Opinions.
No, there you were promoting your products. I re-read another thread on butter a couple of days ago, and there you were promoting your products.
I too have commented on your penchant for posting recipes directly from the net and was certain you can't possibly have cooked them all. You basically called me out and lied, saying that you had cooked every single one of them. Sorry sweetheart, but if anyone is ruining recipes, you are - if it is being 'ruined' at all, that is.
cookessentials,
Jun 21, 9:04am
I was having a discussion withmr beaker... I do not recall have the discussion with you. . and sorry, i have not bothered to read your posts, but thanks for sharing anyway. i always find herika most helpful and she has always been very diplomatic and polite in any post I have ever seen or discussed. She certainly has alot of knowledge and i guess that those who are interested will take out of what is helpful for them, like most of us do when it comes to recipes - it's good that she and many are happy to share and in such a pleasant and non confrontational way. Happy cooking everyone!
Oh, I must share this story too... I have a lovely customer that comes into my store, he is ninety and he comes in and has a chat and we share recipes and a bit of chit chat, as you do. He used to serve the Queen on the Queens flight and visit to New Zealand in 1954, so an amazing man to chat with and he shares some great recipes... I have just given him my recipe for the beef and bean casserole as he now tends to do one pot meals for himself. . so it's lovely to share recipes with those who are so appreciative.
valentino,
Jun 21, 9:30am
It was obvious that this was read wrong except by the original poster... . The original poster was looking at ways of seeking import into his website, for god's sake, this topic is for recipes not setting up website or getting viewpoints of one about something that does not relate to recipes or opinions of such. Others in the past have been blasted for self promoting, why this exception but alas, you construed this to suit yourself, to me "not on" especially your choice of words in describing me and implying of being a certain "so and so"... . About time you get your facts right and stop pin pricking on certain ones as you did with me. Finally, I do not tell anyone to "p" out as you have indicated, just merely seeking further thoughts on one's posting. Somehow, one gets the thoughts that if you are not hogging the limelight then you go about putting others down. Frustrations over ! ! ! !
valentino,
Jun 21, 9:47am
buzzy110 wrote: When I first came into these threads I saw a lot of posts from you promoting products you sold. At no time did you tell the thread poster that queries about cooking implements, etc, did not belong in Recipes because this board should be purely about Recipes (as Valentino seems to want us to believe) and that they should jump over to General or Opinions.
No, there you were promoting your products. [quote]
It is obvious that you have not been here long enough to know of one's certain import to " recipes " for you to comment as such. Everything that one posted since has been very helpful to those whom are seeking certain answers to which one has the knowledge and imparts thereof, don't see that from you so much, sure it does or could be seen as a little bit of self-promoting but how else is one going to help those whom are enquiring after all, every one like yourself still have that freedom of choice to read and accept or just allow it to be noted and leave it at that. Oh, by the way. cooking implements have every right to be noted here in "recipes" as it helps those whom are unaware of what is available in making one a better cook by use of better implements, so why shouldn't implements be noted? Just as much as your opinions on certain foods perhaps should not be stated but we don't note that, we just allow it without noting anything as it is part of recipes. Opinions on foodie websites are always taken as well but in thoughts of what it should have or include to me anyway is basically only helping one to improve themself and possibly for personal money making venture which is or can be seen as self promtion and does not relate to any recipes given... ... ... ...
Frustration still continues hence right words still not there BUT ! ! ! !
cookessentials,
Jun 21, 10:24am
Quote Buzzy110 "I too have commented on your penchant for posting recipes directly from the net and was certain you can't possibly have cooked them all. You basically called me out and lied, saying that you had cooked every single one of them. Sorry sweetheart, but if anyone is ruining recipes, you are - if it is being 'ruined' at all, that is. " Please dont call me sweetheart, thanks. and please do not call me a liar either. I dont think I have ever said that I have cooked absolutely EVERYTHING as far as the recipes I post. Recipes had certainly become unpleasant and sadly because of EXACTLY the sort of crap you have just written above.
elliehen,
Jun 21, 11:57am
valentino and cookessentials... . thank you both very much for all the times you have generously shared your considerable experience and expertise in Recipes. A bouquet for you :)
NO thanks at all to the poster who says that crockpots and cakes are subjects beneath contempt, and derides those who ask about them. A brickbat in that direction :(
cookessentials,
Jun 21, 12:02pm
you are welcome elliehen.
valentino,
Jun 21, 12:17pm
Likewise... . .
eastie3,
Jun 21, 12:34pm
Good on ya Cookie, personally I think that Recipes became a very unfriendly place for a while because of the constant preaching and sneering of a few posters who had causes to promote, and mocked the less sophisticated (in their view)cooks. I simply didn't bother with their threads after a while and one of the main offenders has now flounced off to the TM Facebook site declaring she wasn't going to waste her time here any longer. I don't want to follow a low carb lifestyle, I don't get offended if others want to cook with condensed milk or crockpots, and I certainly don't care if others choose to use packet mixes or favour lolly cake and the like. I cook whatever I want to, and want others to have the same freedom. What I do think is a shame is that less confident cooks would hesitate to seek advice because a few would turn on them with ridicule and scorn. So what if you push your own barrow, they do, and with considerably lessclass, resorting to sarcasm and derision. The passive aggressive "wow", invariably follows, along with another gibe. Just ignore it, they thrive on this sort of thing.
I'm not an expert in any way, but I have raised a now adult family, of whom one went on to cook professionally around the world, and love creating good food and sharing what I do know.
cookessentials,
Jun 21, 12:56pm
Thanks eastie. There is an example on a new thread at present where someone has asked about the scoop blade which i have answered, they then asked where you can get one. I have said most cookware shops have them and of course, in swoops uli with a :) obviously trying to refer that I am "self promoting" - how ridiculous, but that is the pathertic sort of stuff that annoys people here. i cannot be bothered getting wound up with passive aggressive buzzy... she is just crying out for attention and she wont get mine, i have better things to do. I am the same as you, I really enjoy cooking and i love helping out where ever i can - it seems those that are envious are the ones that do all the rarking up around here. I will continue to help in any way that I can for those that appreciate it. and those that think recipes is full of "old biddies" or people who can only copy and paste or make cakes and sweets - well pfft to you.
ferita,
Jun 22, 4:09am
Harden up
herika,
Jun 22, 5:54am
People will come into the msg board, read and comment, thats what its all about. Its a public msg board for the public to use. Some people just dont know how to ignore posts that dont interest them. Some people disagree with what another poster has put and then put their own stance on it, which I think is fine, but when it turns to personal attacks (or breaking the rules) thats when TM should step in (unfortunately they dont most of the time). There is a lot of good info on these boards which can be very helpful. I know I have learnt so much in the 5 or so years Ive been coming in here. So keep up the good work everyone whether its posting recipes or helpful information (and whether that is about recipes, cooking, helpful tips, etc etc)its all good :)
toadfish,
Jun 22, 5:57am
I for one am voting this thread off. As I think it definately falls into the category of "Not belonging in recipes"
Have a great day all.
katalin2,
Jun 22, 6:44am
I thought this from MB TM Rules might help to get certain people get back on track:
No commercial use or self-promotion Over posting or spamming of the message board ruins it for others. The message board is for open discussion only, please do not advertise any auction, product, or service. This includes trying to facilitate a trade through the message boards (including wanted postings. )
I for one use Recipes all the time as there have been some great recipes and discussions- lets keep it that way! Everyone is entitled to their opinion- sometimes it is the way it is said that offends.
nfh1,
Jun 22, 7:03am
Yes I love Recipes too, I have learnt a lot. I am grateful for the posters who give their help and advice freely.
Agree with #22 - it is not what is said but the way it is said.
elliehen,
Jun 22, 10:46am
Yes, nfh1, the way it is said is so important in a civilised society, but sometimes WHAT is said is quite off-beam and difficult to ignore, especially for new posters coming here for information about cooking.
That recidivist spamming poster said that Recipes has been 'ruined' because people ask questions about crockpots and cakes... ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
nfh1,
Jun 22, 12:37pm
I must have missed those - or perhaps I just turn off when seeing them! Perhaps I have the wrong end of the stick though, is Recipes not about baking and cooking? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
dbab,
Jun 22, 1:23pm
I have met cookessentials when went through the Wairarapa in January on holiday. I found her to be very helpful with the query I had. It was lovely to put a face to a username. As I haven't met bussycan't comment, but always enjoy reading her (his? ) posts. It is obvious from buzzy's and cookessentials responses that they DO know what they are writing about. Keep up the good work you guys and I for one look forward to reading many more of your posts. Edited for spelling.
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