Right, what is your idea of a typical traditional "kiwi" dinner. I am going with a roast - lamb, kumara, potato, carrots and pea's, gravy and mint sauce. With a pav, of course with kiwifruit and whipped cream for dessert
terachaos,
Feb 6, 10:06am
Sounds like just the ticket! Being a tad cooler today, pumpkin soup entree might be an idea! Think it might be bbq steak for him-outdoors, he'll be doing the cooking.
vintagekitty,
Feb 6, 10:09am
ooo yes BBQ's have become pretty traditional now too
cookessentials,
Feb 6, 4:14pm
Happy Waitangi day to you too VK. I am not doing anything traditional though I'm afraid. I am doing curried zuchinni fritters from the Revive cookbook.
nfh1,
Feb 6, 4:29pm
Happy Waitangi Day to you vintagekitty - nothing even remotely traditional here, we are having curry.
samanya,
Feb 6, 4:34pm
That sounds pretty traditional to me. Or if you want get really traditional .you could always put down a hangi but the food would never taste as good as what you have planned.
rainrain1,
Feb 6, 5:06pm
meaning!
uli,
Feb 6, 5:09pm
Meaning that samanya thinks a hangi "would never taste as good " as good as vintagekittys "kiwi" dinner.
samanya,
Feb 6, 5:14pm
Did I say that!
samanya,
Feb 6, 5:17pm
Suit yourself! Personally I would prefer what vintagekitty has planned .but it depends on what YOU perceive as 'traditonal' . not my perception.
uli,
Feb 6, 7:06pm
I only repeated for rainrain1 what you said. I did not add anything myself. Just your own words.
Personally I have no idea what a "traditional" kiwi dinner is - it most likely depends if you were a local hunting moa or if you were immigrating from England as one of the first farmers.
samanya,
Feb 6, 7:10pm
of course you wouldn't have any idea.
uli,
Feb 6, 7:13pm
That is why I didn't say anything :)
Which is what you find so irritating maybe!
Nothing to pick apart!
esther-anne,
Feb 6, 7:59pm
What would be traditional for a special day in your country of birth uli - bearing in mind that I don't know which country that is!
Being one of those people from England you mention - though not an immigrant in the strictest sense of the word - I would myself drool over vintagekitty's proposed menu.
I haven't really enjoyed the hangis I have tasted but I love the Maori tradition and I am so glad that Waitangi Day appears to have been a rip-roaring success this year, regardless of who ate what!Hmmmmmm!
nik12,
Feb 6, 10:43pm
I love a good Hangi!Got to be done by people who know what they are doing though, so no way I'd try one my self! Funny thing though, Hangi has all the same ingredients as the good 'kiwi' roast (now that we don't eat Moa and Kiwi and have introduced cabbage, carrots etc).So hope no one takes that the wrong way! I can't do good hangi like I can't do a good boil up.Can make the same ingred's taste good though he he.Although I haven't cooked water cress, just had cold in sammies while it's young. Tonight we had roasted lamb potato carrot and parsnip, corn on the cob and peas. with homemade gravey.No mint sauce 'coz I moved and forgot to pull some of my mint bush! If I'd followed it with rice, or bread and butter pudding. I'd call that tradional, nz pionner dinner!Too hot to make a pav lol PS Kumera was only missing from my roast 'coz I live too far from town and it's been too hot to think about roasting for awhile :-)
vintagekitty,
Feb 7, 6:57am
I can't stand Hangi, I have tried and tried to like it but no, give me a lamb roast anytime!
jerrytravis,
Feb 7, 10:52am
re: hangi. i saw that program of Jamie Oliver hanging out with the cowboys of Winsconsin cooking up roast meat and stews out of the dutch ovens, the method by which the cast iron vessels were covered entirely in hot charcoal and left to cook for 4 to 5 hours. same principle as hangi kai, permeating with those gorgeous smokey flavours. very soulful!
jerrytravis,
Feb 7, 10:59am
a typical anglo saxon meal in 1840 would consist of boiled salted pork and potatoes, maybe with some watercress or thistles thrown in for good measure.
uli,
Feb 7, 2:33pm
You think the smoke would permeate the walls and lid of a Dutch oven! Must try that out sometime.
vintagekitty,
Feb 7, 4:59pm
Glad I was not around then!
samanya,
Feb 7, 5:02pm
So am I . but when needs must!
kay141,
Feb 7, 5:27pm
Maybe not a pleasant meal but better than starving.
uli,
Feb 8, 9:32am
Not pleasant! Pork, potatoes and watercress! I would eat that any time!
kay141,
Feb 8, 9:59am
1840 boiled salt pork was tough, very salty and very fatty. And only watercress for some, the high countryites would use thistles. As I said, not the most pleasant but better than nothing.
uli,
Feb 8, 10:07am
Tough pork is no problem if you cook it long enough - then cut across the grain. My breeding boar was seven when we ate him - lovely and fatty :) The fat is actually much needed calories when you clear land of bush!
And yeah - thistles are nice . I have a whole lot of the tamer version: they are called artichokes.
If you are interested I can post some of the food the early settlers here ate (both Maori and European).
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